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	<title>Comments on: Birds chasing our Goldfish</title>
	<link>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/</link>
	<description>Gardening in coastal Georgia, Zone 9</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have my sympathy for a pond that is too shallow. Ours is too. I dug it myself with a rented thingummy, but ran into awful tree roots and gave up when I shouldn't have. As a result, herons can wade in the pond and I have to keep clearing out the deeper part, so that the goldfish have somewhere to hide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have my sympathy for a pond that is too shallow. Ours is too. I dug it myself with a rented thingummy, but ran into awful tree roots and gave up when I shouldn&#8217;t have. As a result, herons can wade in the pond and I have to keep clearing out the deeper part, so that the goldfish have somewhere to hide.</p>
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		<title>By: mss @ Zanthan Gardens</title>
		<link>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>mss @ Zanthan Gardens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-120</guid>
		<description>We only have some cheap 10-cent goldfish but it's amazing how attached we've become to them. (We haven't named them, but I can tell them all apart.) Our biggest problem so far is raccoons. Our contractor didn't finish digging out the pond before the cement truck was scheduled and thus it is too shallow to keep raccoons out. For now, we've covered the pond in bird-netting to keep out the raccoons and the cats. We haven't come up with a permanent solution yet but can't do anything until construction is completed. At this point, that may be a very long time.

I suppose I worry too much over 70 cents worth of fish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We only have some cheap 10-cent goldfish but it&#8217;s amazing how attached we&#8217;ve become to them. (We haven&#8217;t named them, but I can tell them all apart.) Our biggest problem so far is raccoons. Our contractor didn&#8217;t finish digging out the pond before the cement truck was scheduled and thus it is too shallow to keep raccoons out. For now, we&#8217;ve covered the pond in bird-netting to keep out the raccoons and the cats. We haven&#8217;t come up with a permanent solution yet but can&#8217;t do anything until construction is completed. At this point, that may be a very long time.</p>
<p>I suppose I worry too much over 70 cents worth of fish.</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-102</guid>
		<description>Well, I'm with you on that, but all you actually see is the bird tossing its head back and swallowing! The weather warmed up yesterday, and we discovered that there are still at least 20 goldfish in the pond. I think Thom's right that the birds tend to get the larger ones, because the school swimming around yesterday was composed on smaller ones. 

As a biologist, what I find interesting is that they are not all gold. Some with black and white blooges have survived. In our last pond, we discovered, as I would have expected, that the ones with fancy tails disappeared first. You'd expect this on evolutionary grounds: fish bred for their pretty looks are not as good at escaping predators as the wild type (if there is such a thing as a wild type domestic goldfish).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m with you on that, but all you actually see is the bird tossing its head back and swallowing! The weather warmed up yesterday, and we discovered that there are still at least 20 goldfish in the pond. I think Thom&#8217;s right that the birds tend to get the larger ones, because the school swimming around yesterday was composed on smaller ones. </p>
<p>As a biologist, what I find interesting is that they are not all gold. Some with black and white blooges have survived. In our last pond, we discovered, as I would have expected, that the ones with fancy tails disappeared first. You&#8217;d expect this on evolutionary grounds: fish bred for their pretty looks are not as good at escaping predators as the wild type (if there is such a thing as a wild type domestic goldfish).</p>
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		<title>By: Annie in Austin</title>
		<link>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-101</guid>
		<description>I like the way you've come to terms with herons harvesting your goldfish, Karen... it seems more sensible than trying to protect thousand-dollar koi. But I might not like to actually see the speared fish! 

Annie at the Transplantable Rose</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the way you&#8217;ve come to terms with herons harvesting your goldfish, Karen&#8230; it seems more sensible than trying to protect thousand-dollar koi. But I might not like to actually see the speared fish! </p>
<p>Annie at the Transplantable Rose</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-97</guid>
		<description>Cats are the worst. Naturalists on the Galapagos say feral cats are THE most destructive introduced organism (plant or animal). We once had to get rid of a cat that could take a bird from our feeder at a standing leap. It's not fair to attract wildlife and also own a killer cat. We, too, wage constant war against the neighbors' cats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cats are the worst. Naturalists on the Galapagos say feral cats are THE most destructive introduced organism (plant or animal). We once had to get rid of a cat that could take a bird from our feeder at a standing leap. It&#8217;s not fair to attract wildlife and also own a killer cat. We, too, wage constant war against the neighbors&#8217; cats.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
		<link>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 03:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-96</guid>
		<description>What a beautiful heron!  Ah, we love the watch the wildlife, but sometimes it's painful to see the cycle of life come full circle.  I feel for you...and I wouldn't be out in the pond now, either!  I'm always trying to protect all of our birds (I say "our") from the 2 neighbor cats who like to come lurk under our feeders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a beautiful heron!  Ah, we love the watch the wildlife, but sometimes it&#8217;s painful to see the cycle of life come full circle.  I feel for you&#8230;and I wouldn&#8217;t be out in the pond now, either!  I&#8217;m always trying to protect all of our birds (I say &#8220;our&#8221;) from the 2 neighbor cats who like to come lurk under our feeders.</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 13:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-95</guid>
		<description>I think you're wise. We knew the herons would get some of the goldfish, which is why we started with tiny 15-cent fish. But they reproduce rapidly and some of them always seem to escape the birds' depredations. The birds get the big fish, which rescues us from emulating the horrid scene at Huntington Gardens, where the goldfish are so large and aggressive they're scary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re wise. We knew the herons would get some of the goldfish, which is why we started with tiny 15-cent fish. But they reproduce rapidly and some of them always seem to escape the birds&#8217; depredations. The birds get the big fish, which rescues us from emulating the horrid scene at Huntington Gardens, where the goldfish are so large and aggressive they&#8217;re scary!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Beth</title>
		<link>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://savannahgarden.net/projects/pond/2008/birds-chasing-our-goldfish/#comment-94</guid>
		<description>We also struggled with goldfish (Koi) in the large resaca (i.e. bayou, stream, etc) bordering our yard.  The egrets and herons won and we now just enjoy watching them fish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We also struggled with goldfish (Koi) in the large resaca (i.e. bayou, stream, etc) bordering our yard.  The egrets and herons won and we now just enjoy watching them fish.</p>
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